The original Reid Memorial Hospital in Richmond, Indiana, was built in 1905 and served the community for over one hundred years. During that time the hospital continuously expanded, adding new wings in new architectural styles to grow with the population.

Eventually the organization was forced to relocate to a new facility in 2008, leaving the old campus in the hands of eager developers. However bad planning, bad timing, and just plain bad luck has seen multiple investor groups fail to resurrect the old Reid – leaving the city an eyesore with a large unpaid tax bill.

Why did Reid leave, and why couldn’t the old campus be saved?

cover photo courtesy WayNet.org

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"Old Reid" Memorial Hospital today
“Old Reid” Memorial Hospital today (courtesy Bing)

History

daniel-gray-reid-2The former hospital, known among locals today as “Old Reid,” has origins dating to 1905. At the dawn of the twentieth century, St. Stephens Hospital had served the town of Richmond, Indiana.

But the facility was limited, with overwhelmed staff and only ten beds. Overcrowding was a problem from the start; by the early 1900s, St. Stephens was turning away fifty patients a week.

Help came from a group of investors led by wealthy American industrialist Daniel G. Reid (1858-1925). Reid (pictured) was a native of Richmond and had found success in business, eventually earning the nickname “the Tinplate King.”

To solve the healthcare shortage, Daniel Reid purchased fifty acres of land on Richmond’s north side from John F. Miller for $30,000. He then donated another $100,000 toward construction of a new hospital.

The hospital was to be a memorial to Reid’s son Frank and wife Ella, who both passed away before the turn of the century.

Additional contributions totaling $15,000 came from the estates of Robert Morrison and James Starr. Former Reid business partner William B. Leeds contributed another $10,000.

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Reid Memorial Hospital (circa 1905)

Architect John A. Hasecoster was tasked with designing the hospital. His final draft included the home of prior landowner John Miller, situated just to the right of the main hospital building (later demolished and today the location of the newer six-story H-wing.)

Hasecoster’s plans were accepted in 1904 and groundbreaking began soon after. The structure was built of Indiana Oolitic limestone and had a 57-bed capacity (later expanded to 75 beds). The cornerstone for the new Reid Memorial Hospital was laid on September 24th, 1904, while the dedication took place the following year, on July 27th, 1905.

[ Daniel Reid gave a great deal of money to build and support Richmond institutions, including the YMCA, the Art Association of Richmond, Earlham College, Reid Memorial Presbyterian Church and Reid Hospital and Health Care Services. Reid also donated $295,000 to build Reid Memorial Presbyterian Church in honor of his parents. ]

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Expansion

Reid-memorial-hospital-nurses-homeOver the decades the local population swelled and the healthcare climate evolved. Reid Memorial Hospital made appropriate changes to keep pace.

When possible, infrastructure was improved and new buildings added. Fundraising events were common as the hospital sought financial boosting to accommodate growth.

In 1910 the hospital opened a Nursing School to address the shortage of trained nurses. By 1928 Reid Memorial Hospital opened the “F wing,” a residence hall for the nursing students (pictured above left).

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Reid Memorial nurses

Reid-Memorial-Hospital-1950-fundraiserIn 1950 Reid Memorial Hospital chairman William H. Reller ran a fundraising campaign to further expand the growing hospital. Once again the organization nearly doubled in size with the addition of a large six-story annex. Known as the “B-wing,” this annex opened in 1953.

Later that year the organization re-affirmed its financial deft by earning non-profit tax-exempt status in December of 1953.

Five years later, the new 154-bed “H-wing” was opened in 1958. In time the H-wing became known as Reller Wing, named for the man who spearheaded the hospital’s rapid mid-century growth.

photos courtesy Morrisson-Reeves Library

Together these buildings are easily discernible with their industrial rectangular shapes and flat concrete tops, which contrast greatly from the original hospital’s classic design and V-shaped red roofs (pictured below).

Reid Memorial Hospital 1950s additions: B-wing & H-wing
Reid Memorial Hospital 1950s additions: B-wing & H-wing

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Reid Memorial Hospital corridor, 1960s

By the late 1960s the hospital was once again starved for space and needed to expand.

Reid-Memorial-Hospital-Leeds-Tower-fundraising-1970Another round of fundraising efforts took place, and within months the funds had been arranged for construction to begin on the hospital’s largest addition yet: Leeds Tower.

This addition was named for hospital co-founder and Reid business partner William Leeds, and was built in a popular-for-the-era brutalist design.

Leeds Tower was penned by architect Robert Karlsberger and dedicated on January 11th, 1973. It displays both the functional potential of brutalism and how the design language can clash with classical architecture.

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Leeds Tower today (courtesy DunMiff/sys)

Expansion at Reid Memorial Hospital continued to keep pace with the region’s population growth. New annexes would continue to be added throughout the 1980s, tripling the hospital’s outpatient capacity.

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Reid Memorial Hospital expansion (circa 1980s)

Reid Memorial Hospital Growth: Stages

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Original Reid Memorial Hospital in 1905

Reid additions pictured below, L to R: 1940s, B-wing (1953), H-wing (1958)

Reid additions post 1970: Leeds Tower & various annexes.


 

Modern Era

Reid-Hospital-Health-Care-Services-LogoReid Memorial did not see a name change until its 87th year of operation. In the early 1990s, the industry witnessed a shift in healthcare institutions from focusing on hospital care to a growing outpatient services base.

In 1992 Reid changed its name to “Reid Hospital & Health Care Services” to better reflect this greater scope of treatments. (Now 23 years later, it will change again in late July 2015 to simply “Reid Health.”)

By 1994 the hospital had grown into a large regional hospital with 359 beds and 1,300 employees. To this point, its growth had been so significant few paid attention to the functional cracks starting to form. Those in charge, however, noticed before the turn of the century the hospital’s rate of growth was beginning to slip. The board knew further expansion wasn’t enough; a drastic upgrade was needed.

Reid’s narrow stairwells, old elevators, and small rooms were insufficient to keep up with demand, and they were not competitive with newer health centers. The newest wings of the hospital ultimately added more beauty and outpatient services than beds.

The original ninety year-old structures were still needed for patients, rendering the 1970s and 80s additions nice but functionally moot to the underlying problem of the older infrastructure and limited capacity.

Old Reid Memorial Hospital in its final operating days

Management tried valiantly to make more efficient use of a resource that was itself declining in efficiency. To offset higher costs, outreach programs were reduced and the IT department was outsourced in the mid-1990s.

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New Reid Opens, Old Reid Closes

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To their credit those in charge of Reid Hospital and Health Care Services were wise to the dynamic changes and planned accordingly – but it was clear a move to a new facility was needed to survive.

In September of 2000, the governing board officially voted to relocate to a new, purpose-built campus.

In September of 2004 the organization broke ground on its new location with help from a cash injection via a tax-exempt bond issue, floated to doctors of the facility. This combined with an announced sale of the property in 2006 finalized the exodus and made possible the survival of the hospital.

There was reportedly no shortage of suitors; sixty-six offers were submitted for the property which first appeared on the market at $4.9 million dollars.

Reid Memorial Hospital: Then & Now

Then & Now photos courtesy Morrisson-Reeves Library

In the spring of 2006 the buildings and land of the Reid Hospital & Health Care Services campus were sold to Whitewater Living Center, LLC, for $3.5 million.

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Whitewater was an investment group created specifically for the acquisition of the old Reid Memorial Hospital. The seven-person investment group (which included four principals from Richmond) intended to create a mixed-use project on the site.

The Whitewater bid was not the highest, but according to officials from Reid, the investment group’s intentions to create jobs and avoid demolishing the buildings were key reasons their bid was accepted.

Progress would understandably not begin until Reid vacated the facility. This of course would not happen until the health care services organization had moved into their new, $315 million-dollar facility, about 1.5 miles to the north of the old Reid campus.

Whitewater waited in earnest and attempted to line up additional financing. Reid offered an initial estimated migration date for outpatient services in April 2007, with a final vacating of the old campus by November of that year.

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Construction begins on new Reid Hospital & Health Care Services Center

Construction of the new Reid Hospital consisted of four phases. The first was an outpatient rehabilitation facility, completed in 2004. Phase two and three were the medical office building and outpatient care center, both opened in 2007.

New Reid Health location: Map It!

The final phase was the inpatient hospital, which opened in September of 2008. Reid Hospital President Barry MacDowell was enthusiastic to note:

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This is the first time the community has celebrated a new hospital since July 27, 1905.”

Delays pushed the closing date of Old Reid Memorial Hospital back by nearly a year, as the transition took longer than expected. The emergency room didn’t transfer its last inpatient until September of 2008; by then the hospital was 103 years old.

On September 10th, 2008, at 7 a.m., the new Reid Hospital inpatient center on Reid Parkway opened to the public. Reid ambulances transported one patient from the old Reid every ten minutes until the move was completed.

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Old Reid Memorial Hospital photo set courtesy DunMiff/sys

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Developments Stall

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Whitewater Living wanted to develop old Reid Memorial Hospital for commercial and residential use, featuring retail, restaurants, residences, and office spaces.

Additional ideas percolated as well, such as senior apartments, assisted living, or even student dormitories for Indiana University East or Ivy Tech.

But Whitewater didn’t get the keys until October 31st, 2008. By then the country was in the throes of a financial crisis. Financing tributaries had dried up, leaving developers and investment groups stranded. Markets tumbled, real estate prices collapsed, and Whitewater Living was forced to abandon its quest to redevelop of Old Reid.

The investment group sold their interest in the property in late 2008 to Rose City Development LLC, a group which included Mike Dickman, one of the principals of Whitewater. Chalk this one up to bad timing; headwinds with financing in the economic climate stalled this group before they were able to get off the ground.

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courtesy Austin Reid

In June of 2010 a third attempt to redevelop old Reid Memorial Hospital again gave hope to those who wanted to see the 105 year-old campus preserved.

New Yorkers Bob Ciprietti and Ernesto Zamparini, principal owners of Spring Grove Development, LLC, were the buyers in the transaction with Rose City Development. Interestingly, Ciprietti was listed as a principal for both Rose City Development and Spring Grove Development.

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courtesy WTHR.com

Spring Grove Development proposed a $21M renovation for the 64-acre site, outlined in three phases. The first phase would convert the old hospital into student housing, the second would include building a 150-room hotel tower, and the third was to develop a technology park.

The catch was again financing, as developers noted this project required “Tax Increment Financing,” a public taxation tool that would require city council approval for implementation. If the numbers worked, construction could begin as early as the fall of 2011.

Asking for funding would prove an uphill battle, but the plan was popular with the Wayne County Chamber of Commerce, who pointed to the 140 construction jobs and 14 new full-time jobs created when it asked the city to offer tax incentives.

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courtesy WTHR.com

Less excited were Richmond city officials, who appreciated the concept but realized the municipality could ill-afford to subsidize plans to develop the old Reid Memorial Hospital.

Spring Grove Development did not waver in lobbying its cause, and by March of 2011 it had enough community support to warrant a special city council meeting on the matter of tax financing. Council members agreed to make a one-time contribution of $125,000 from the Economic Development Income Tax Funds pool, but they did not agree to tax increment financing.

Again the project stalled. Spring Grove, like Whitewater, failed to secure financing. Once again, a suitor had walked away – only this time, Spring Grove was unable to find a buyer and abandoned the property.

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Old Reid Memorial Hospital Deteriorates

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After Reid left, equipment and furniture was left behind – at the request of the new owners, according to Reid officials. When it was realized the redevelopment was not going to happen, auctions were held for the holdover equipment and furniture that did not make the transition to the new hospital.

Chairs, computers, and equipment that did not sell at auction stayed behind, delaying the inevitable fate of disposal by a future owner. While the city negotiated with developers, the buildings themselves suffered. Vandals smashed windows, scavengers scrapped wiring, and graffiti artists helped themselves to the new blank canvas in their backyard.

Spring Grove Development, LLC, stopped paying property taxes in 2011; by 2012 the old Reid Memorial Hospital property had accumulated more than $120,000 due in delinquent taxes forcing the city to put a lien on the property.

Mayor Sally Hutton astutely noted the lack of property tax payments doesn’t bode well for the future of the development project. “You would think if they were serious about developing the property they would keep their debts cleared.”

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In July of 2012 a proposal was submitted to build a Dollar General store on one of the four parcels of land, however the proposal quickly stalled because city did not wish to subdivide the property.

Old Reid Memorial Hospital’s deteriorating condition was eating away at county officials, but their tools for enforcement were limited. The property’s tax liabilities gave the city its only window to take action. In December of 2013, the Wayne County board of commissioners and treasurer filed a lawsuit against Spring Grove Development over its accruing debt and failure to take action on the site.

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Public Awareness

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Urban explorers were already intimately familiar with Old Reid Memorial Hospital, but in January of 2014 local news crews were allowed access for the first time.

The public was instantly exposed to the decay wrought by thieves, vandals, and Mother Nature over a scant six years of disuse.

The level of blight was surprising to Reid director of engineering Jeff Cook. “When we left that building, we left it in operational shape. The equipment we left was left at the request of the first owners.”

“Someone could have come in and started operating the next day.”

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That was in 2008. Today? Not so much.

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Condition

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Currently the old Reid Memorial Hospital has no electricity or security staff. Previous owners tried several times to board up entrances and exits, but adventurous trespassers removed them and found other ways in. Eventually, the property owners gave up the battle with trespassers and stopped trying to keep them out.

Some rooms are empty, others display antiquated electronics covered in a dust of time that has stood still. Yet just about everything is overwhelmingly ransacked.

A letter board in the emergency room still has names of the hospital crew that worked on the final day in September of 2008 – but the glass and lock are broken, and other letters have been removed or re-arranged.

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Conduit hangs down dangerously from the ceilings, pilfered for its valuable metals and immediately discarded. Ceiling panels are scattered, many having been dislodged, removed, or destroyed. Years of freeze and thaw cycles have produced cracks and warping. Moisture stains abound.

Standing water in the flooded lower levels has fostered mini ecosystems flush with mold. The city has seasonally run a sump pump – sometimes 24 hours a day – for the collecting water in the basement (pictured below).

Dozens of small arson fires have been started inside the buildings – the largest being in the auditorium – but none have been successful in bringing down Old Reid.

Fire Inspector Mike Davis describes the different types of fires: “Some of them are destructive for destructions sake, some of them are to melt to get to the actual metals, and some of them are to keep warm.”

Fortunately none of the fires have been fatal to residents or the building. Anecdotally, the Richmond Fire Department says the construction of the building is such that it cannot easily burn to the ground.

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City officials have grown weary of the dilapidated structures. They are an eyesore and present a safety liability – not to mention the issues surrounding burglaries and fires which tie up emergency response personnel.

In February of 2014 the Richmond Police Chief estimated the department has had close to 200 calls to the hospital in the five and a half years since its closure in late 2008.

Reid-Hospital-Richmond-Indiana-55-our-missionIt became a disaster: Old Reid had failed to produce a new revenue stream for the city while also becoming a bigger drain on city resources. One city official accused developers of taking off with valuable materials and leaving town.

The city preferred to re-use the buildings if possible, but demolition bids were sought as a contingency plan. Early 2014 estimates had demolition costs pegged north of $6 million.

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Reid Goes to Auction

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By August of 2014 the old Reid Memorial Hospital property had accumulated more than $464,000 in back taxes. The city had tried and failed to recoup the money by placing liens on the property and pursuing the owners in court.

When these methods failed, the hospital was then added to the county property tax sale, an auction in which buyers can typically purchase properties by satisfying the outstanding liens.

In theory, if the property sells both sides win: The city sees outstanding debts paid by a developer willing to contribute fresh capital. The developer can potentially purchase a property well below market value and work with a tired and desperate city who is likely more receptive to working with developers than before.

The September 30th, 2014 auction witnessed 150 properties go up for sale. At the top of the offering list was the six parcel, 60-acre former Reid Hospital at 1403 Chester Blvd – which by this time had accrued $501,251 in back taxes and penalties.

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courtesy DunMiff/sys

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Environmental Hazards

At the same time city and county officials worked together to find a solution for the old buildings and clean up the site. A firm was hired to study ground contamination on campus so that a safe demolition could take place.

Seventy four of the properties sold at the auction, but among the unsold listings was old Reid Memorial Hospital. It had recently been discovered the buildings had serious asbestos concerns – the property wasn’t going down without a fight. The news scared bidders away but earned the city grants from the Environmental Protection Agency for further site evaluation.

In March of 2015 the results of a preliminary study by the Indiana Department of Environment Management were made public. Officials were not expecting groundwater contamination as the report found; it revealed levels of dioxins, lithium, arsenic, thallium and gross alpha particles above the legal allowable limits.

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“Our overall goal was to identify what we’re dealing with and then move ahead with plans to demolish those buildings.”

– Tony Foster, Richmond Development Department director

By late spring of 2015 the buildings remained in purgatory as further testing was ordered. Leaking barrels and drums sit with medical waste, still waiting to be sanitized and emptied. Contaminants were found along the main drive into old Reid Memorial Hospital and under parking lots. In addition, a makeshift dump site was found at the far-east end of the property – although officials believe this might have been a product of local residents and not the hospital itself.

Richmond Development Director Tony Foster shared the city’s position on the matter, but was unable to offer a timeline:

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Right now, I don’t know that anybody can determine the full extent of the contamination. The next step would be to do further testing to delineate the scope of the contamination… It is a little frustrating. The timeline for cleaning that up is now unknown. Just raising the money, demolishing the buildings and cleaning it up would have taken a long time if the ground were clean. When you get into soil and ground water contamination, from history, we know it’s a long, long process to get it cleaned up.”

For its part Reid has worked with the city in analyzing the problems facing the property. The organization issued a statement and has said it will deal with issues for which it may be responsible, however it claims to have nothing to do with the building’s current dilapidated condition. Reid spokesman Larry Price let city residents know of their involvement:

Of course we are concerned. Reid is cooperating, but I don’t think anyone knows enough to know if we have any responsibility. We haven’t owned the property in nine years, but we did own it for 100 years prior to that. Reid is definitely aware of it, in meetings with everybody and is cooperating as much as we can.”

Old Reid Memorial Hospital images courtesy KICKS96.com

At a minimum, the buildings removal will now be expected to cost several million dollars and take several years.

Meanwhile, the county’s court case against the property owners for back taxes was grinding to a halt. In April of 2015 the county attorney filed an amended motion in the ongoing attempt to serve a summons to the property owners. Attorneys revealed the old Reid Memorial Hospital has since grown its delinquent tax bill to $527,042.

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Conclusion

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In healthcare it is not uncommon for advancements in medicine and technology to force changes to infrastructure. In other instances a growing patient base requires an increase in capacity. Viewed through this lens, it is a testament to Reid Memorial’s management that the organization managed to extract more than one hundred years out of the facility.

Photographer Cynthia Rauch offered a third-party view as she documented the hospital’s transition and worked side-by-side with the staff:

It was obvious, as I walked the halls, why the move was needed. Seems everyone was starting to work on top of each other, and the building showed the history of medicine instead of the future of health care.”

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Currently there aren’t any suitors for the old Reid Memorial Hospital buildings, but the environmental investigation has frozen attempts to sell the property anyway.

An old listing on commercial real estate website Loopnet advertises the site’s helipad and access to an “outstanding labor pool.” As of July 2015 the ad remains online – but it reflects the old Reid Memorial Hospital is no longer on the market.

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Watch: Video Tour of Old Reid Memorial Hospital Today

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Old Reid Memorial Hospital today (courtesy WayNet.org)
Old Reid Memorial Hospital today (courtesy WayNet.org)

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38 COMMENTS

  1. All over the world there are so many abandoned buildings, not just small cottages, huge palaces, massive industrial structures, hotels, hospitals of all description, even entire cities. I suppose in the end and with enough time nature will take care of them. Sad that these places cannot find some use, instead we keep building more and more. Thank you once again for your wonderful stories and photographs.

  2. “Over 100 years a tenant,
    kept tidy enough and trim,
    Less than 10 years vacant,
    already rotting from within”

    “A stream of suitors came and went,
    though none stayed for very long,
    A bride of a building left at her altar,
    Where did it all go wrong?”

  3. I would love to be able to buy a portion of the old rield if my funds would or if I knew how to go about obtaining some funds to buy part of it I hate seeing things go to waste too but if I were to get apart i would like to make a sort of combination offes movie theatre music and recreation center the one old house with the red roof which after some reading I found out to be the former building to be daniel reeds home which later the execuative offices were located its interesting that up in the attic there is a painted portrait that by the signed dats is from 1968 I just cant get over how nice all that old Real wood is inside there that place is just amazing I wish I hada time machine so I could go back and show people then and now so maby it wouldnt be in as bad shape as it is now but like the top of this artickle said it was a great idea it just fell at the wrong time witha downturn of the economy I wish I could hit the lottery buy most of the complex and redo it I like to urban explore but everytime I go there i try and clean stuff up some it was interesting that last tiem I was there soemone had put a stack of files on a desk i was using I though that waskind of neat:)

    but if you see anything trying to be cleaned up or improved thank me “max” for it

  4. ive taken alot of nice photographs of the property when ive been there, it has a nice peaceful feeling to the place in general I can imagine the paients there felt very much at ease and I love the mission statement on being able to help people even if they cant help moneywise im not a bad person far from it just wanted to share I hope this place will be aorund for awhile and soemthing can be done with it maby ill get fortunate to be able to get to own a portion of it I live in ohio but richmondis sucha wonderful city I love the old richmond down by the overpass bridge by the rialroad tracks witht eh old antique car atop the silo tower and lighting up its headlights at night was a really nice touch

    • Keep taking pictures! The best way to help remember buildings around town is to have plenty of photos of them. One thing I’ve found during my research is how difficult it is to find photos of buildings during their operational lives. We generally don’t take pictures of stuff when it’s open.

    • its a really nice place i go there alot ive spent a couple hours there each time and I still havent seen all there is to see there its sucha big complex:)

  5. I find it interesting that so often trespassers go into old, abandoned buildings. I never would have thought to do that, especially if a place is fenced off or barricaded. I wonder what the allure is? “Because it’s there”?

    • I think the reason people go into old and abandoned buildings part of reason is the mystery beind it on one hand you wonder what were the last goings on in there who was there and what did they do
      its also neat to see what was left behind an then you wonder why it was and what will become of it, least thats my take on it its also neat to rember history behind places and ina sense you dont want places to be forgotten an in my case i hate seeing people go in and trash places just for fun because when the real exploeres who only want to just relax and enjoy having a look aorund go in then that makes us look bad because we arnt destructive yes there are certainly risks involved with going into places but so long as you use a little common sense 9and it helps if you know what hasmat checmicals and labels are since ive been trained in that I know basickly whats safe to touch and what isnt as far as that goes)

    • For me the intrigue surrounds the items left behind and the story of why any given building came to be abandoned. Some company or person walked away from that asset. I’m curious as to why. But I have to say I’m not much of a trespasser myself; I leave that to those who are more adventurous.

  6. I agree. The story and the unknown stories surrounding the building are alluring. Also, for me, it’s invigorating and mesmerizing to be able to stand in a place that was once a thriving part of the community. A couple friends and I went there last night. No one was around, no cops guarding the building. We drove around the campus scoping it out, in awe of the way the dilapidated buildings stood in the moonlight. It really is a sight to see. Quiet. We parked across the street at some health center and walked over to the campus. My friends and I got a little bit of exploring in before we heard a whistle as we were taking pictures. The whistle was within close proximity, at least 100-200ft. There was no one around at the time, we did not see any cars pull in as we stayed near the front of the building because it was around midnight. Needless to say we got spooked and booked it back to the car. I am excited to go back during daylight hours and explore more. Although, if you decide to check it out, at least prepare yourself for what you are getting into. Trespassing is frowned upon! Be safe and smart. The soil/water supply left on the property is highly contaminated, and the vandalism inside the buildings has caused exploring to become slightly dangerous (broken glass, wiring and ventilation hanging down, furniture and obstacles laying all around). I loved the pictures and article! Great read.

    • Thanks for the comment and sharing your experiences with us. Feel free to post a link here to your photos if you wouldn’t mind sharing, I enjoy seeing the results of others’ visits. Thank you for the kind words on the post, cheers!

  7. Does anyone know how to get ahold of someone to go into the hospital. A friend of mine just want to take pictures. But does not want to go in without permission

    • you cant legally get in because of the liabilities and especially now with the environmental hazards. i dont know if spring grove still owns it or if wayne county took it in exchange for back taxes either way neither will let people onto the property. thats why urbexers have to do things on the quiet because nobody will let them do it legally anywhere. go during daylight bring a buddy and a respirator and good luck.

  8. I was just there on saturday I wanted to check up on my office area there im glad I did However I wasnt hapy with what I found it seems some gangs or kids have decided to be very destructive in the old orginal reid hospital building I found lots of words spraypainted on the walls and down the halways this Realy makes me mad because not only is this a wolnderful old building and piece of history but ive been in the process of Trying to clean things up in there to make things somewhat functioknal again as well as just cleaned up in general

    im wanting to try and aquire this building if i can when it warms up im going to buy some paint and go back in and paint over where the gangs or kids have started messing things up I can understand others wanting to hang out and thats fine and all or even look around but Please dont be destructive it makes everyone look bad besides runing the building

    I dont mind paying out of my own pocket in order to try and fix things up I wish I had enough money to buy the entire complex and make soem of those ideas sucha s a movie theratre arcade hotel rooms and more happen like it was hoped in the beginning

    it made me mad that someone carried my desk out of the office and set it in another room I put it back but wether it will stay there is anyones guess I took some pictures of my nice trips thru the complex Ill have to post them here or online sometime

    ~Max

    • Keep fighting the good fight Max. You are doing an amazing thing I’ve never come across in other abandoned building stories. I admire what you’re doing – really. Please be safe, these same vandals could be causing structural damage in places unseen. Also, that air quality…

      • thanks Ive had training at jobs and places I used to work at for hasmat and chemicals so I know how to deal with that aspect and of course I assume responsibility for my own wellfare while im in there an wont hold richmond or anyone liable for my presense in there or if by some chance id become injured, I understand the risk of going in there and I Hope that if any city officials read this threy wont at least try and arrest me for trying to do a good deed and thing!:)

        I know about the air quality and again try and be safe and wont hold anyone responsible for breathing the air in there some parts arnt that bad thankfully and im betting alot of the chemicals around in the main complex area came from when the power was shut off the pumps that kept the spring water out of the basement and let it flood caused alot of that

        Ive also been to school for home and commercial construction wiring so I know how to work on repair and deal with and work around power grids and panels..of course I use my own power source while in there be it battery or use of a generator Ir realy love to see if the old pa system would still work..would be nice to play some “elevator music” over the old system while walking around inside or working there:) ok thats defintely not the normal in places like this but I figure “why not”? and I simply Hate seeing old equipment go unused too

        One thing I did that I thought was very cool was I took a battery and hooked it up inside one of the old call boxes out in the parking lot and powered its backup suppy circuits up..they Still Worked after all this time and when I pushed the call button I heard a relay click and a recording in one of the chips said over the speaker “Please stand by your call has been sent” in some womans voice im sure the transmitter or data lines have long since been removed or disconected but I thought that was neat it still worked and did that

        no im not a crazy person just someone who has lots of interests and time to do things..only wish I had more capitol

  9. I love visiting Old Reid. Finally got to go up on the roof about a month and a half ago. I’m a curious person who enjoys adventure, I’ve gone with many friends to explore and appreciate what is left of the once thriving hospital. So much history for Richmond, and Indiana. I appreciate your efforts, Max 🙂 wish more people had your spirit.

    • Thanks Erika:). Apreicate your supportive and kind words. I love visiting old Reid too I told one of my friends down where I live now about it and he wants to go see it so we’re planning on making a trip there next week after I get my check

      I showed him pictures I’ve taken..which I need to add some here so others can see an enjoy too. And I wish more people has my spirit too

      ~Max

  10. Went there during spring break a couple weeks ago while visiting a friend. Discovered a room with wha seemed like fresh blood. Only can imagine wha went on in those rooms. Tragedy or just kids being brats and making it look like something bad happened. Either way, its so peaceful and calming and has alot of history and meaning behind it

    • It is so peaceful there and my friend who i grew up with went with me to visit and look around earlier this month we both enjoyed looking around i showed him what positive things ive done an tried doing for that complex an building an one part of it..and also what the bratts keep doing and undoing to my efforts which really makes me mad ..but for long as i can an can get by with it i still dont want to give up the fight i was really angry when i just seen the news about the recent fire in front of jenkins hall really a shame people do things like that plus it makes all the friendly exlorers look bad

      Not sure if typing up a courtious memo an putting it up on a window would help or do any good or not

      • made a check up trip there last month an found things way more trashed including the areas id wanted to use and on top of that as Id read in the news some idiots had set a big fire in the second floor of the leeds tower which of course now has drawn much more attention to the campus and ruined it for others just wanting to go there:/

        so guess thats the end of that deal oh well it was a nice idea while it lasted

        I did see some one outside one night I was there witha flashlight outside one of the buildings by a window while I was inside not sure if it was the cops or not but I left after that

        shame people have to ruin fun for others but guess youl have that

        ~Max CEO D an G Corperate

        • That’s really unfortunate to hear, I’m disappointed at the lack of respect some of these visitors are showing. Max do you believe these are homeless people residing in the buildings or mischievous youth causing trouble? They certainly don’t sound like urban explorers.

          • Yes it was really disapointing to see I dont think its the work of homeless people I have seen some “nests” in there blankets an a pillow in one room once and some small packadges of food like chips and cookies Id say t was work of mischievous youth as once when I was there I saw some other people an watched them for awhile from the leeds tower out one of the windows to see what they were doing they were just climbing on stuff down in what used to be the food court eating area just outside of the old cafeteria

            and another time id seen people I head glass being broken its amazing how much destruction has occured in only over a year and halfs time as I have pictures from when I first started going there in late 2014, early 2015 and most of the windows then in leeds tower wertnt broken

            and I agree wish people would respect more and just enjoy so others can too at least I saved a bit of history from there I took home a dvd that said “growing together celebrating 105 years 1905-2005 its a 15 minute documentrary that tells about the hospitals begining additions and end along with some early footage of richmond

  11. I got busted by the cops after going in there. For some reason when we got a phone call from a friend that chickened out, my friends and I took off out the back door. I’m not sure why, considering that officers are not allowed to enter unless a life is in danger.
    The cop informed me that there are still old chemo drugs in there.
    Also, at current time people cannot be charged with trespassing for entering the building, but the city is trying to change that.

  12. Oh & btw Ive been reading the comments & I have an answer to if she was alone or in a group, she said: For some reason when we got a phone call from a friend that chickened out, my friends and I took off out the back door.

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