One of the more fascinating oceanic tales is that of the strange encounter between the Ellen Austin and an abandoned vessel found adrift near the Bermuda Triangle. The Ellen Austin‘s captain sent two separate crews to bring the vessel to New York as a salvage prize, however both crews mysteriously vanished, and the derelict was lost forever.

What ship did the Ellen Austin encounter, and what became of her two missing prize crews? What is truth, what is fiction? Sometimes-Interesting has gathered the information and presents what is believed, and what is known. 

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Ellen Austin Timeline

In 1854 a three-mast schooner named the Ellen Austin was built in Damariscotta, Maine. It was built of white oak and measured 210 feet long. When the ship was completed for the Tucker family of Wiscasset, Maine, it weighed 1,812 tons.

Ellen Austin Richmond Dispatch 1855
Ellen Austin announcement from the Richmond Dispatch, April 1855 (source)

In early 1855, the Ellen Austin sailed from Damariscotia, Maine to Savannah, Georgia. During the journey the crew encountered the Florence, a limping ship that was dismasted in a severe gale. Captain Wood and the crew of the Florence were rescued by the Ellen Austin, and brought to port at Savannah in April of 1855.

The following month the Ellen Austin departed Savannah, bound for Liverpool, with 2,397,817 pounds of cotton cargo. It was “the largest cargo of cotton ever cleared at that port.”

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An announcement for the Ellen Austin in the Raleigh Register, dated May 26th, 1855 (source).

By 1856 the Ellen Austin was serving as a packet ship for the Patriotic Line under Captain William H. Garrick. While working for the Patriotic Line, the schooner ran between Liverpool and New York City.

Service during this time was not without incident; in July of 1856 the Ellen Austin reported an estimated loss of $60,000 worth of cargo (or around $1.7 million in 2015 USD).

In September of 1856, the London Times published an announcement the Ellen Austin had sailed from Liverpool for New York.

New York Times Ellen Austin announcement
New York Times announcement from February 19th, 1856 for the Ellen Austin packet ship (source).

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Brutality at Sea

On February 19th, 1857 the New York Tribune announced “Brutality at Sea” whilst reporting gruesome details of abuse and torture employed by Captain Garrick and his crew during the ship’s November 1856 journey.

The report said Captain Garrick “knocked [Thomas Campbell] down with a heavy wire rope” and “then beat him over the back and shoulders, lacerating his body and also inflicted two severe wounds upon his head.

Ellen Austin Brutality at Sea
reprint in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, February 19th, 1857 (source)

According to the report, that wasn’t enough.

“Not satisfied with his own brutality, the captain set on two large, ferocious dogs, who TORE AND MUTILATED HIS LEGS.”

The papers declared measures would be taken for the arrest of Captain William H. Garrick, his first mate, and boatswain; however the measures did not appear to stick, as a New York Tribune announcement in August of 1857 indicates that Garrick was still the captain of the Ellen Austin.

As for the ship herself, by March of 1857 she was back to shipping. At this time the Ellen Austin was operated by Hamilton & Graham.

Ellen Austin Weekly Standard March 1857
March 1857 announcement in the Weekly Standard includes the Ellen Austin (source).

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Emigrants & Small Pox

In July of 1857 a case of small pox broke out on the Ellen Austin. The vessel departed Liverpool with 553 emigrants, but by the time they arrived in New York, the ship had to be sent directly to quarantine: Twelve passengers had become inflicted with illness.

Five more cases would be reported after the ship had docked. The Baltimore Sun reported in July of 1857 a total of 51 on board the Ellen Austin with the infectious disease. The Ellen Austin was evacuated because of its “poisoned condition.”

In December of 1857 the Ellen Austin reported landing 560 emigrants at Castle Garden after sailing from Liverpool. June of 1858 brought more bad news for the schooner: When the ship arrived at Liverpool from New York City, another 39 passengers would contract small pox.

By August of 1858 the Ellen Austin was back in New York. The next month she was underway on her return journey to Liverpool. In November of 1858 the Ellen Austin arrived in New York with an abandoned ship, the Chieftain, in tow.

According to reports, the Ellen Austin found the Chieftain abandoned and water-logged on November 29th, 1858. Its sails were bent and furled, but was otherwise salvageable.

In November of 1859 the Ellen Austin arrived in New York from Liverpool. The ship next arrived in New York in July of 1860, this time with sick passenger Robert Bulmore, who died of “hepatisation of the lungs.” During this same midsummer journey to New York, officers of the Ellen Austin were also accused of tying the arms and knees of a passenger together and passing a stick between them before “rolling him along the deck like a bale of goods.”

The Richmond Dispatch added:

“This ship, it is said, seldom arrives in port without similar charges being made by passengers and crew, of VIOLENT USAGE ON THE PART OF THE OFFICERS.”

The New York Times echoed the Richmond Dispatch’s sentiments:

The officers of the Ellen Austin have a very unenviable notoriety for alleged cruelty to their men, and that the vessel has scarcely ever entered port without complaints being made in our Police Courts against them for cruel and inhuman treatment.

Second mate Frederick Hodges was examined on charge of cruelly beating passenger Henry Jones on the voyage from Liverpool, but the District Attorney’s office told the victim this mode of treating him was “not a criminal offence under United States laws.”

It was not surprising to hear William Garrick was the ship’s captain at the time, although one must wonder how the man had (to date) escaped punishment for his crimes.

Ellen Austin

Meanwhile, Captain Garrick and the Ellen Austin continued to sail. On October 21st, 1860, the ship arrived in New York from Liverpool. In February of 1861 she arrived in Liverpool from New York. On November 6th, 1861 the Ellen Austin again arrived in Liverpool from New York. Captain Garrick brought the ship in to New York on Saturday, June 28th, 1862. The ship then made a return journey to Liverpool before leaving again on January 16th, 1864.

On March 10th of 1864, the Ellen Austin crashed into the vessel Troubadore, tearing its jibsand carrying away its bowsprit.

Ellen Austin hits Troubadore
Ellen Austin hits the Troubadore, New York Times March, 1865 (source).

The Ellen Austin brought 777 passengers to New York from Liverpool in August of 1864. It was a quick turnaround before the ship’s next trip in October of 1864. In August of 1865 the ship arrivedin New York from Liverpool reporting “light westerly winds and calms most of the passage.”

In August of 1866 the Ellen Austin arrived in New York, and was now flying under the French flag. Routes changed in 1867, according to a June article in the Daily Milwaukee News. The article announced the arrival of the New York-based Ellen Austin in San Francisco.

In August of 1868 the Ellen Austin again arrived in San Francisco from New York. In October of 1868 the ship cleared San Francisco docks, bound for New York with 43,000 sacks of wheat. This journey was also notable as one of the first furnishedwith sailors from the Labor Exchange, an early sea-faring cross between a union and temporary employment agency. In the case of the Ellen Austin, each sailor was advanced two months’ wages in gold as he stepped on board.

On December 2nd, 1869, the Ellen Austin arrived in San Francisco from New York. In November of 1870 the schooner appeared on a damaged ship report. According to the report, the Ellen Austin passed Cape Horn on September 18th, 1870, then the equator on October 24th. During this journey the ship ran into a heavy gale and caused damage to the bulwarks, post quarter boat, and broke adrift spars which lashed the deck and caused the vessel to leak.

The Ellen Austin was repaired, and resumed her shipping lane. She cleared San Francisco ports in October of 1872, once again bound for New York. Days after her departure, the Ellen Austin again collided with another ship. This time she hit the Ann Humphreys, which lost its “foremast, main top mast, sails, and the whole of the gear attached, and also sustained considerable damage to port bow.”

A report in April of 1874 lamented the supply of available tonnage in port, noting the only engagement being that of the Ellen Austin‘s 1,812 tons for the Sutton & Company Line.

By this time the the now elderly schooner was led by Captain A.J. Griffin and once again worked as a packet ship, this time for the Grinnell, Minturn & Co.‘s Red Swallowtail Line of London which ran between London and New York.

On April 9th, 1874, the Ellen Austin arrived in New York from London. In April of 1878 she left New York bound for London.  She arrived in London on August 24th, 1878 and quickly turned around for her return journey, arriving in New York in November of 1878. On the 23rd of September, 1879, the Ellen Austin was again sailing for New York. She left New York bound for London on the 18th of November, 1879.

In April of 1880 the Ellen Austin arrived at port having lost crew member James Sutherland at sea during a heavy gale. In May the ship left New York and headed for London.

New York Times reports of James Sutherland's drowning (source).
New York Times reports James Sutherland’s drowning in 1879 (source).

In July of 1880 the London Times printed an announcement of availability on the Ellen Austin (£15 for a saloon) for its trip to New York. The ship was scheduled to depart London on July 3rd.

The Ellen Austin left New York headed for Liverpool on September 21st, 1880. She was anchored in London by October 29th, 1880. The Ellen Austin was listed in the Arrivals section of the New York Times as having arrived in New York on December 5th, 1880.

That would be the Ellen Austin’s final sail for The Grinnell, Minturn & Company, which terminated its London packet ship service in 1880.

 

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The Encounter

Here is where the legend of the Ellen Austin encounter comes into play. It was during its final journey as a packet ship, the Ellen Austin would have its reported mysterious sighting.

The Swallowtail Line schooner departed from London on December 5th, 1880, bound for New York. Several weeks into its journey, the Ellen Austin came across an unidentified schooner drifting just north of the Sargasso Sea, listless and “sailing an erratic path.”

Captain Baker of the Ellen Austin commanded his crew to follow and observe the derelict for two days, lest the the abandoned ship be a trap. After two days with no activity or movement from the mysterious vessel, the captain was convinced it was safe to proceed closer.

The Ellen Austin moved within hailing distance. When the ship still failed to respond, the captain gathered four of his men and rowed toward the abandoned ship.

Derelict-ship

Because there was no response to the hails, the men boarded the ship weapons drawn. The captain was first, and as he boarded he again hailed the missing crew.

Halloo thar! Anybody onboard?”

Again, no response.

Upon inspection, the vessel appeared to be shipshape and in reasonably well-maintained condition. Its sails were furled and tattered from exposure, but the vessel’s rigging was intact. There was no sign of any violence, nor was there any sign of a crew. The only things missing were the ship’s log and its nameplates, which for some reason had been removed from the bow.

Two of the Ellen Austin crewmen inspected the abandoned ship’s hold and reported it contained a well-packed shipment of mahogany. Captain Baker speculated the schooner had likely been sailing from Honduras – possibly bound for England or a Mediterranean port – before something must have convinced the crew to evacuate quickly.

The circumstances were indeed curious, however the captain was intrigued by the salvage opportunity of this otherwise fine ship.

“Board that ship! I want a crew of my BEST men to sail it to New York.”

Captain Baker of the Ellen Austin

Baker instructed his prize crew to follow the Ellen Austin and sail the derelict to New York.

Within hours Captain Baker’s prize crew had the vessel sorted and on its way. For the next two days things proceeded normal; the ships sailed on calm waters within earshot of each other. However on the third day the schooners were separated by a fierce Atlantic storm, a side-effect of the hurricane tearing through Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia at the time. Days of relentless pounding separated the ships, and contact was lost.

After two days the skies opened and the seas returned to calm. Visibility extended for miles, along with an odd quietness on the water – now as flat as a mirror. Absent from the horizon, however, was the other ship. The vessel and the captain’s prize crew had disappeared.

[ Did you Know? Bermuda Triangle fame: The first mention of the region’s strange incidents was by George X. Sands in a 1952 article in Fate magazine. Vincent H. Gaddis is credited with being the first to coin the name “Bermuda Triangle” in his 1964 Argosy magazine article. ]

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A Second Sighting

The Ellen Austin had been separated from the abandoned vessel for some time before it was spotted once again by Captain Baker’s lookout. Through his spyglass, the captain could barely see the sails of the derelict. For some reason it did not seem to be following course, instead drifting aimlessly once again.

Ellen-Austin-graphic-2Baker ordered his ship to change course so that it would intercept his salvage opportunity. Those on board the Ellen Austin knew something was wrong; the abandoned vessel was reportedly sailing so erratic, it took hours to catch up to her.

When the Ellen Austin closed in on the schooner, the captain and his men attempted to hail the ship, but no answer came. Baker assembled an inspection team and quickly rowed to the cryptic ship. Once again, the men boarded with guns drawn.

Of the prize crew, they found nothing. No one was on board. The cargo hold was still full and most everything else was in order – except there was no sign Baker’s prize crew had ever been on the ship. No food rations were missing. The bunks had not been slept in. And the new logbook, left by Captain Baker upon the vessel’s first discovery, had also disappeared.

It was as if the first encounter between the Ellen Austin and the derelict had never happened.

The crew of the Ellen Austin – now convinced the derelict was cursed – wished to abandon it at sea. The captain, however, was still keen to cash in on the potential salvage opportunity of a ship in good working order. Baker didn’t know what happened on board the other vessel, but he knew the likelihood of it happening again was unlikely.

Or so he thought.

[ Did you Know? The U.S. Navy does not acknowledge the existence of the Bermuda Triangle, and the name is not recognized by the U.S. Board of Geographic Names. ]

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A Second Prize Crew

Ellen-Austin-graphic-7It would take hours of careful negotiation for Captain Baker to convince his superstitious seamen to even consider making another attempt.

The crew feared something evil was at play; Baker reasoned there was a rational explanation for the disappearance. To assuage fears the captain said to follow at a distance of no more than ten ship lengths, and he allowed the men to carry firearms.

The second crew was assembled and eventually convinced to undertake the daunting assignment. As the men readied the derelict for sailing back to New York, the weather again turned inclement. This time a dense fog settled across the water, lowering a cloud of thick mist reducing visibility to mere feet. Again, the Ellen Austin‘s lookout lost sight of the second ship.

On this day the seas were not treacherous, however such poor visibility separated the two vessels and brought the Ellen Austin to a standstill. For hours the men tried to peer through the fog, scanning the waters looking for any trace of the other ship. When the fog started to lift, the lookout was the first to shout “She’s gone!”

This time, Captain Baker listened to his crew.

As the legend goes, the Ellen Austin never witnessed the derelict or its second prize crew again. Captain Baker’s schooner continued on to New York, where it arrived somewhat late in February of 1881.

The Ellen Austin never resumed packet ship service. Later that year she was sold to German company and re-named the Meta. She would meet her fate just two years later; in 1883 she was reportedly wrecked along the American coast while under the command of Captain A.J. Griffin.

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The Legend is Born

After 1883 the story of the Ellen Austin’s mysterious encounter similarly fell off the map. It would be more than two decades before a mention of the Ellen Austin ship would again make the news.

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The Daily Deadwood Pioneer Times tells the story in 1906 (source).

The first mention of the mysterious encounter in print came in June of 1906. The Daily Deadwood Pioneer Times published a story telling of the “more inexplicable circumstances of the derelict picked up [by the Ellen Austin] in 1891, several hundred miles off the coast of America.”

Why she should be derelict, no man could say, since she was apparently in good condition.” The article notes the Ellen Austin parted company with the derelict twice, the second time neither ship nor crew were heard from again.

LTC Rupert Gould
LTC Rupert T. Gould

The story again emerged from the depths during a 1935 radio broadcast by a retired British Naval officer. Lieutenant Commander Rupert T. Gould (pictured) was an enigmatic radio personality known for his London-based radio show, on the air from 1934 until 1942.

It was during a broadcast on October 9th, 1935, Rupert Gould introduced the public to the fantastic tale of the Ellen Austin encounter over fifty years earlier. Gould reportedly first heard the story of the Ellen Austin from fellow seamen, and listed no other verifiable sources.

Rupert Gould Stargazer Talks
The Stargazer Talks by Rupert Gould

In addition to his telling of the events during his radio broadcast, he also wrote about the incident in his 1944 book The Stargazer Talks.

A discrepancy in the Gould version of the story is his claim the Ellen Austin was sailing for St. John’s, Newfoundland, rather than New York.

Different versions of the tale would be re-told by various news stories over the years, each offering different details of the event. In July of 1954 the Terre Haute Tribune told the story of a schooner discovered in the mid-Atlantic in 1881 by the American ship, the Ellen Austin. Of note was the change in year from the 1906 Daily Deadwood Pioneer Times version of the story, which reported the event occurring in 1891.

Yet another version of the story appeared in the September 2nd, 1977 edition of the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph, which told of a British vessel named the Ellen Austin that “encountered an abandoned ship while en route from England to Newfoundland.” The only other reference to Newfoundland was the Gould version, which was likely the source for the 1977 re-print.

In 1979 the Alaska Daily Sitka Sentinel ran a blurb on the “Ellen Austin, an American vessel.This version of the story also indicated the event occurred in 1881, and similarly listed two separate disappearances.

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Separating Truth from Fiction

With so few documented details about the alleged encounter, mapping a proper account is extremely difficult if not impossible. Resources are limited to a handful of records from Lloyd’s of London, archived newspaper announcements, Rupert Gould’s re-telling, and repeated legend passed on from one sailor to another over time.

We can, however, break down the details and separate what we know from what we don’t. Can we find potential explanations for the story’s events, or was there amplification for effect? Let’s start with what we know.

Consistencies & Facts Reported

  • According to Lloyd’s of London records we know the ship existed, and at one time sailed under the command of Captain A. J. Griffin.
  • There are dozens of documented journeys for the Ellen Austin between London and New York, and later between New York and San Francisco.
  • The Ellen Austin was known to have suffered damage during squalls, at least twice she crashed into another ship, and she also once rescued a stranded crew on another ship.
  • The Ellen Austin left London on December 5th, 1880, bound for New York. A letter to Guildhall Library in England, where Lloyd’s Lists are maintained, and to the New York State Historical Society, revealed these particulars of the Ellen Austin and that its last sailing was under the American flag and Capt. A.J. Griffin.
  • Each version of the story seems to agree that the ghost ship was discovered in 1881, its log was missing, and the nameplates had been removed from the bow. Of the many pieces of information in the various versions of the story, these appear to be common to all.
  • The abandoned vessel’s cargo hold was full and untouched. Food on board was plentiful, munitions were stocked. No visible signs of violence or piracy.

Supporting Evidence & Circumstantial Truths

  • The Ellen Austin did sail the sea lanes attributed to her in the story, and was frequently in a position north of the Sargasso Sea to encounter many derelicts that drifted out of the Bermuda Triangle. The Sargasso Sea is known to have circular currents which entrap ships; many have been well-documented.
  • The Ellen Austin did not reportedly arrive in New York until February 11, 1881 – an unusually long journey for the London to New York route. This supports the theories that additional time could have been spent in search for another ship. In addition, she had previously encountered several ships.
  • One account has the journey occurring in the winter of 1880-1881, yet another says the trip occurred in August of 1881. However we know by this time the Ellen Austin had already been renamed the Meta. Why didn’t the accounts from sailors indicate the updated name of the vessel? The reason is at the time, sailors often identified boats by their figureheads or beakheads, not by their names. Thus, name discrepancies alone do not necessarily invalidate the story.
  • It is also possible Rupert Gould got the year and name wrong in his version. If the encounter did occur during a summer 1881 journey from London to Newfoundland (as is told in Gould’s version), this does not eliminate the Meta where it would the Ellen Austin. Unfortunately we are unable to confirm if the Meta took such a journey; that year 18 vessels were named Meta, and Lloyd’s did not possess complete records for all.
  • It is generally believed that the derelict did not succumb to piracy or robbery; this is primarily due to the lack of violence, the ship’s stocked munitions, untouched food and drink, and full cargo hold.
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    The Sargasso Sea (source)

    The Sargasso Sea, which extends halfway across the Atlantic from Florida toward the continent of Africa, is a virtual maritime desert. Its seaweed (called “sargassum”) is so thick, the wind cannot raise any sort of sea. The only break in the sargassum comes from scores of ragged abandoned ships, which have collected over time.

    But it has an explanation: The Sargasso is formed entirely by the action of circular currents. These currents slowly spin clockwise to direct ships and debris toward the center. The flotsam remains because there is no current to take the debris, seaweed, and ships back out.

    [ Did You Know? The Sargasso Sea is the only sea on Earth which has no coastline. All other seas in the world are defined at least in part by land boundaries; the Sargasso is defined only by ocean currents. ]

Questions & Conflicting Information

  • We know the Ellen Austin was captained by A.J. Griffin from 1874 until 1883, and it sailed a London-New York route under the American flag, according to Lloyd’s of London. However Rupert Gould tells of the ship sailing under the British flag and led by Captain Baker, while sailing to Newfoundland.
  • The 1906 re-telling in the Daily Deadwood Pioneer Times version of the story (which pre-dates the Gould version by thirty years), told of the encounter occurring in 1891.  However we know the vessel set sail on her final packet ship route in 1880, and another article claims the Ellen Austin was wrecked in 1883.
  • The story was reportedly re-told within the sailing community, from one seaman to the next, for generations before it reached Rupert Gould. How much was skewed by misreporting and multiple retellings? (Have you ever played the game telephone?) As with any second, third, or fourth-hand information, there is room for discrepancies.
  • Rupert Gould hosted an entertainment program of gripping stories, strange events, and world oddities. While he was not known to be a fabricator, he did court mysteries. It would not be out of the realm of reason to believe he would embroider for effect. Before Gould’s story. (For example, older versions of the tale lacked a second encounter between the Ellen Austin and the derelict.)
  • At the time, any captain would have had to account for a loss of crewmen, especially in a case of two sets of missing crewmen. Understanding this, the event would have had to occur in another year as there is no record of a casualty report with Lloyd’s in 1881.
  • Wikipedia offers that a check of Lloyd’s of London records proved the existence of the Meta, built in 1854 and re-named the Ellen Austin in 1880. This however conflicts with respected author Gian Quasar’s research, who discovered through his own contact to Lloyd’s of London that the ship was originally the Ellen Austin and was later re-named the Meta when sold to a German company. The Wikipedia entry also states there are no casualty listings for any vessel at that time that would support the claim that “a large number of missing men were placed on board a derelict ship that later disappeared.”
  • It is reasonable to assume the Captain’s best crew was piloting and navigating the Ellen Austin. The first prize crew who stayed behind to pilot the derelict after the first encounter would have been, at best, the Captain’s “B” team. When this group was lost, the second prize crew would have effectively been the “C” team. If the ship was lost for good, could lack of experience or other human error have played a factor?
  • If there was indeed an entire ship’s crew present to witness these two fantastic disappearances, why has there not been greater corroboration, news reporting, or publicity behind the story?

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What do you think happened to the Ellen Austin during her encounter with the derelict ship? What became of her two prize crews?

Did we miss anything?

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Other Famous Drifters

  • 1887: The Vincenzo Perotta was first spotted northeast of Bermuda on September 17th, 1887. She thereafter drifted 2,950 miles over 536 days to finally end up at Watling Island in the Bahamas. In that time 27 ships reported her, and each carried a tale of mystery to some foreign port.
  • 1888-1889: The schooner W. L. White was abandoned in a blizzard off Delaware Bay, her crew having fled to the life boats. She drifted for eleven months, and during that period, she travelled over 6,800 miles in 310 days – sometimes carried by the current and wind. The W.L. White was reported no fewer than 45 times. She finally drove ashore on the island of Lewis, in the Hebrides.
  • 1891: The drift of the American schooner Fannie E. Wolsten, lost in 1891, took four years to make a voyage estimated at nearly 10,000 miles. She was abandoned at the edge of the Gulf Stream, which helped carry her along its path. She was reported dozens of times, drifting in the Atlantic, before finally being seen close to the edge of the Sargasso Sea. The hope was that the Sargasso’s wilderness would suck her in and presumably be kept safe from everybody. But it was not to be: Two years later the Fannie E. Wolsten reappeared in the lanes of a major shipping channel off New Jersey. Then, she disappeared forever within a day’s sail of where she had been abandoned.
  • 1895: The lumber-laden schooner Alma Cummings is believed to have drifted more than 5,000 miles in the Atlantic across 587 days. Her crew was taken off by a steamer when she was dismasted, which spewed water into her hull so freely her occupants thought she would disintegrate at once. Nobody believed the Alma Cummings would still be afloat 18 months later.

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39 COMMENTS

  1. i think the 2nd encounter was made up to make the story sound better. the prize crew probably just wasn’t up to snuff and couldn’t handle the ship in bad weather like you suggested. but why no names on incident reports then?

  2. Excellent piece!
    The fun of these kinds of stories is trying to find the grizzled nugget of truth in all the confabulation. My guess is that this was one story of an encounter with an abandoned ship that grew legs and became an early example of an urban legend, circulated amongst seamen.

  3. What fascinates us when we read this kind of stories is the fact that nobody will ever know for sure if and how it actually happened. Even though the truth (which we will never know) is probably disappointing, it’s the mystery that feeds our imagination and what makes the whole thing so attractive. Nobody can resist a good ghost story, right?
    Congrats on another fine piece of work.

    • Hello my friend! A familiar face, good to see you around these parts Andrei. I think you explained it well. The enchantment of never knowing the truth adds to the overall allure of the story. Thank you sir.

  4. Who doesn’t love a good mystery ship story? I find it odd that there’s also no record anywhere of an entire ship filled with mahogany ever going missing. Seems someone would’ve noticed neither the shipment or the crew every returned or arrived. Also, don’t Captain ship logs details all events that occur on the seas? I would think any good Captain would’ve documented all that had happened with his ghost ship, especially since they arrived later than expected. Given the follow up stories of ships noted for months on end drifting, that not a single other report of the drifting ship was ever made. I find the part about the second prized crew to be highly suspect. You find a ship completely abandoned with ample materials on board and place your own crew on it. This crew also goes missing and you place a second crew on it? And the second crew, fog or no fog would’ve likely pulled up closer to the Ellen Austin and even suggested they tie the ships together until the fog passed. They were already paranoid. The whole story might not be bogus, but I think that second crew likely is. Great piece.

    • Great break-down Noelle, all good points. As far as the Ellen Austin’s log not detailing the alleged events, I thought maybe a captain with a reputation might omit negative events from official reporting. But how does he explain the missing crew? And your point about the mahogany is a good one as well; somebody would be looking for their mahogany. Thanks for the comment!

  5. The removal of the nameplates was unusual. Why would the crew want to hide the identity of the ship? Were there any candidates identified as the derelict ship?

    • Great questions, and the nameplate one is the thing I struggle with the most. It doesn’t make sense, especially when you consider seamen of the day identified ships by their mastheads anyway. So why wasn’t the masthead removed? The fun part of the mystery is trying to decipher which elements were truths and which were embroideries. As far as candidates for the derelict ship, I could not find any in my research. I think Lloyd’s would be the best place to start, but it would take a significant amount of research on their part to narrow the list down; I don’t know if they have the time to spend on such an endeavor. Thanks for the comment!

  6. Interesting. I also find the idea of the second prize crew sent to be most likely an embellishment. I don’t believe a merchant at that time would have enough men to make up three minimum crews. Even two would be stretching it at a time when piracy was not the issue it once was. Those needed and an extra or two would increase profit.

    If however, there was a second prize crew we can imagine what they may have been like. The third string on an old merchant doing a milk run, probably were not the cream of the crop. Extra’s would probably be Ordinary Seamen rather than Able Seaman, maybe old, maybe unsavory for other reasons, probably under payed. If they intended to stay no more than 10 boat lengths away they probably did not have trained navigator, but might have had someone with a smattering. One wonders if the third string crew, separated in a fog might have decided to keep the salvage for themselves and head to a port where few questions would be asked.

    • Great point Bob. The possibility of the third prize crew keeping the ship for themselves is something I hadn’t considered, but entirely plausible if indeed there was a second encounter.

      Aren’t mysteries fun? Thankfully time travel isn’t a thing, otherwise we’d have no mysteries left. 😉

  7. Fascinating. Love this kind of tale. And also, I didn’t know this about the currents (or lack thereof) of the Sargasso Sea. That was very interesting to find out about. Thanks.

    • Hello Guy! That was news to me as well, actually. There are always interesting ancillary facts I learn researching these stories. I just hope they’re as interesting for you guys as they are for me; sounds like in this case, they were. 😉

  8. Something very eerie about the thoughts of abandoned ships floating about for months. It is a strange and mysterious tale and we love it precisely because of that. I agree with some of the comments that maybe it was a mystery created to obscure a rip-off or incompetence. You wonder also what was going on with the crew when there were so many reports of bullying and violence. Great post as always.

    • Yes one must wonder about the crew. Although for the record I did only find one actual printed account of the crew violating a passenger. Other references were to the notoriety the crew had attained over time. As with most reputations you have to figure some of it was earned, but I find it interesting I could not locate any other reports of these supposed atrocities committed by the crew. In fact the one verified story of abuse includes a follow up article from a 3rd party witness (who happened to be a priest), who said the victim was abusive, unruly, and disorderly. According to the witness the assault was not completely unwarranted, so even the one account of abuse is potentially hazy. But that’s what makes these mysteries fun to read, the fact we may never know. 😉

  9. This is for the benefit of those following the comments: A friend of the blog (thanks Robin!) found a rich source of information which included so much not previously covered here, I had to rewrite the article.

    If you caught the article on its debut, it has changed and now includes a more complete timeline. Thanks everyone for reading!

  10. Thinking on this further, I really don’t think the Captain would’ve omitted anything. Back then most Captains were meticulous record keepers and if he’d wanted to claim the booty he would’ve begun by keeping a full detail of all he’d done to assure the ship had been abandoned, where it had been found, in what condition and what he’d done to bring it back. Had he lost crew, he would’ve had to explain this even further upon arrival in the States. To lose two good crews would’ve meant trouble in bringing the Ellen Austin in on time, and as it was it was late. There were fees and penalties that might be laid against the Captain’s income for the voyage unless he had good reasons to explain his delays.

    It’s amazing the stuff Captain’s detailed back then in their logs. I just don’t see him omitting it, since he wouldn’t have know the troubles to come when he first set the pen to the log. Without computers you weren’t likely erasing anything once it was written. He would’ve detailed at least the first part thoroughly, so he could lay claim to the contents of the ship upon arrival.

    • You make good points, Noelle, hard to argue with that logic. I’ve also realized after my second round of research that the record-keeping of the day was better than I previously thought. To your point, it would take one heck of a cover up to conceal these events and explain two missing crews. I also discovered that derelict ship discoveries were often published in the papers. Not always, but often. You would think we’d see coverage of this derelict discovery by some paper somewhere.

  11. It’s a sexy mystery, but I have a feeling a good part of it is bogus. People loved and still love a good mystery and I think that’s what’s given this tale such sea-worthy legs.

    • Wow, good call SB! That’s a big omission, especially considering I’ve written about that ship before. Can’t believe I forgot to include the ship in that space, thanks for the reminder. I’ve updated the post to include the Mary Celeste. Cheers!

  12. Why for you link to sites where you have to subscribe to read the content? Can you not do a screen capture without breaking any copyright infringements?
    Fantastic website though. Awesome articles and very well written.

    • Hi Tim. I link to free sources when they are available, but sometimes I have to link to sources behind a paywall when there are no free options online. In this case, posting a screenshot of the entire article could get me in trouble with that service. Rest assured I have repeated the meat of any referenced source in the article here already. There is not much (if anything) in the referenced articles beyond what I’ve included in the story. Thanks for the comment and kind words though, Tim! Sorry about the issue.

  13. This is an excellent article. It’s always interesting to get to the bottom of “mysteries” like this – they’re repeated so many times that the original source, not to mention context and details are lost.

  14. The original description of the 1st separation with derelict ship was due to a severe gale as a side effect from a hurricane smashing through Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi…could this have been hurricane #5 of the 1881 season that occurred on/about Aug 27, 1881? If yes, this places an actual date on the encounter with the derelict.

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